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Strange request, for me at least. Does anyone know of a good, conservative-Christian apologetics book? By good I mean something that uses actual evidence to support Christianity. I’m not looking to defend a religion I no longer subscribe to. However, I would like to be able to see conservative Christianity in its most optimistic, yet fact based, light, given so many people I love participate in it.

@bduncan Hmm, interesting question..

This might not be what you're after, but it's the intellectual foundation of Fundamentalist Christianity, intended to prove that the conservative understanding can be supported by rigorous scholarship. It's a collection of essays defending the Virgin birth, Incarnation, Deity of Christ, etc. Not sure how well it's aged, but at least one of my conservative Christian friends has a copy on his bookshelf.

The Fundamentals - archive.org/details/fundamenta

@ninjanichols thanks. Yeah, that’s probably not quite what I’m looking for. I’m more interested in fact-based support for Evangelicalism. Like I think I heard Evangelicals are much more financially generous that most other groups. Something that discusses the positive impacts of or data-based evidence for conservative Christianity. I’m not really interested in something that just tows the party line. Maybe am apologetics book isn’t exactly what I’m looking for.

@bduncan I admire this generous impulse. I’d look at Alvin Plantinga and maybe William Lane Craig, although I think that Craig is so caught in the culture wars as to be useless.

But I don’t believe you can’t understand conservatism in a fact-based light. It’s more about belonging and order the way that those things helps people to cope existentially.

@mattwiebe yeah, I agree. Though, most conservative Christians I know would like to think they are rigorous intellectuals. So I’m just trying to find somethings to concede to them. Both so I myself can see the merits and so I don’t sound like such an asshole when I tell people why I left.

@bduncan honestly Mark Noll (himself an evangelical) nailed it in “The Scandal of the Evangelical Mind” when he said “The scandal of the evangelical mind is that there is not much of an evangelical mind.”

Engaging at the level of ideas is the wrong playing field. They’re just post-hoc rationalizations about how “we” are better than “them.” It’s all belonging-based and there’s honestly not much more to it that I can see.

@mattwiebe @bduncan I second this recommendation thoroughly, though I honestly think hardline apologetics usually does more to make people rubberband away from faith and into skepticism.

Craig is kind of the voice of the apologetics community, though I honestly think he has to self-censor his own beliefs because of his role as a professor representing a conservation Christian university.

But yeah, he's extremely indicative of the fact/logic based apologetic camp of Christianity.

@bduncan this might be a little tangential to what you're actually looking for, but The Case For Christ (Lee Strobel) is one of *the* go-to books for Evangelical apologetics.

Also, maybe it's just his god-tier command of prose, but I've always found that C S Lewis articulates Christianity quite beautifully.

@bduncan also, I want to honour the spirit of your request. It's one thing looking for a deeper understanding of something you don't believe so you can tear it down. It's quite another putting in that effort to find solidarity.

Huge thumbs up mate 👍

@bduncan I can't think of anything specifically conservative, but I'd echo @hazzard 's suggestions of both The Case for Christ and any apologetics from CS Lewis. They don't directly discuss conservative values (that I recall), but I know many, many conservatives who love and respect them. Trying to understand is a fantastic goal - mad respect, man!

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