autism, suicide 

spectrumnews.org/news/autistic

Across the board, there's an increased risk of suicide among autistic people. I find one of the quoted musings by a researcher pretty awful, though.

"Autism in and of itself, independent of intellect, seems to be an important contributor to suicidal thought — which makes one wonder if there’s a neurobiological relationship between the brain of someone with autism and the brain of someone who has mood problems and suicidal ideation,"

Follow

autism, suicide 

Seriously? The first thing that occurs to people is some sort of neurobiological difference causing higher rates of suicidality?

It seems like the first thing anyone should explore is how we're treated and what our experience of the world around us is like.

I have yet to hear any autistic person who hasn't faced rejection, hostility, isolation, abuse, or outright assault because we don't present and respond as others expect.

autism, suicide 

Given that's a near universal experience, wouldn't the first thought be there might be some relationship with higher rates of suicidality?

But no. It's because our brains work differently.

Aaarrgghhh!

Show thread

autism, suicide 

And if that universal experience is correlated, then obviously there would be higher rates among those with intersecting marginalizations because their experience would be even worse.

So autistic women and POC would have higher rates of suicidality. Those who also have ADHD would have higher rates of suicidality. Etc.

Isn't it interesting that's exactly the sorts of correlations the study found.

Show thread

autism, suicide, me mocking assholes who think like that 

@tmorizot "well if your brains didn't work differently, you wouldn't perceive the justified response to your abnormality as something to get suicidal over" --- them, probably

autism, suicide 

@tmorizot nghh I can't with some researchers' fixation on biological determinism over social factors.

autism, suicide 

@tmorizot @Pyretta how can they not take into account how much social rejection autistic people experience in their lives? How it's much more likely for autistics to be victimized by abusers? To be bullied?

autism, suicide 

@AzureKingfisher @tmorizot because allistic people don't see what they do as that. They see all their abuse and hurt they cause as "helping" autistic people and then they get very confused when autistic people commit suicide because "they got so much support!"

autism, suicide 

@Pyretta @tmorizot I can see how they are misguided by ABA, but what about upright abuse and bullying?

autism, suicide 

@AzureKingfisher @tmorizot they either consider that abuse and bullying to be "helping autistic people to behave normally" orr they write it off as "boys will be boys" depending. Or blame autistic people for sticking out to bullies.

autism, suicide 

@Pyretta @tmorizot I don't claim to be autistic (yet?) but that has been my experience. I've been told I provoked bullying and I've been told young men were a little turbulent about being abused as a teenager.

autism, suicide 

@tmorizot that, and the incredibly frustrating degree to which the world is designed to cater to neurotypical needs and therefore exhausting for everyone else to deal with.

Sign in to participate in the conversation
The Liturgists

This is an instance for folks who follow The Liturgists Podcast, The Alien Podcast, and other things The Liturgists create.